A Higher We, Real Evolutionary Awakening, and a Trail of Blood and Tears

by Terry Patten

tom-steiningerLast week, on October 15th, Tom Steininger and I held a follow up conversation to our October 5th Beyond Awakening dialogue, “My Guru Experiment: Twenty Years with Andrew Cohen”. We discussed what did and didn’t happen during that first dialogue and went into a deeper exploration of the intricate paradoxes surrounding the evolutionary experiments in the community of students of Andrew Cohen.

Tom requested this follow up because he wanted to share more of his own story and offer a more personal account of his experience during his twenty years with Andrew.

In addition to telling us how he had been served by the white-hot intense demands that produced some extraordinary advancements in consciousness, he also said there were four times when he had decided to leave Andrew and EnlightenNext. He described two of those occasions. He decided to leave once because of what he perceived as “inhuman” ways of being with each other in the community in Cologne, and another time during the Iraq war, when he was repulsed what he felt was a kind of group-think in support of the war from Andrew and the Foxhollow community.

Some people had asked for an explanation of the vague word “abuse” so I explained that Andrew’s own awakening had been dramatic and radical, and that it had given him a sense of zeal for transcendence, and for the unqualified commitment it required, and that he had trusted this absolutely. So he became impatient, even scornful with whatever stood in the way. And he saw that powerful insights and breakthroughs were sometimes catalyzed by intense demands. So he leaned in to create transformational crises. He even articulated a principle of his work that spiritual progress is served by “evolutionary tension” which he embraced to the point of a general failure of empathy for human limitations, even gradual time-anchored change. When people resisted, Andrew almost always ignored their anguish and turned upthe heat.

And at times he took this to extremes. This occurred especially during one particular period leading up to July 30, 2001, when a collective crisis had led to a collective breakthrough among many students, expressed by a “volcanic surge of spiritual illumination” among a whole group that many regard as one of the crowning achievements of his teaching innovations regarding collective consciousness and evolutionary spirituality.

Andrew stood unmoving for his demands, and he got results, but he didn’t listen to people’s cries of pain. Many students left (and many stayed) after seemingly cruel, cultic, even bizarre forms of pressure. And since then, students have shared their stories in blogs and books, and have charged him with a long list of misbehaviors, including physical abuse, financial exploitation, interference with family and personal relationships, violation of sexual and reproductive rights and privacy, emotional and psychological abuse and ostracizing students, and denying and discouraging students’ freedom to leave the community.

Tom acknowledged all this, and he admitted he agreed with some of this critique, even though he is still committed to the utopian purposes behind all the extremes.

Importantly, he clarified that, counter-intuitively, the “abuse” was not what had caused the collapse of the worldwide EnlightenNext community. In his view, the collapse had been caused because of the key way in which Andrew’s work had succeeded. His senior students had awakened together enough to become his peers, but he was unable to receive feedback and submit to the higher collective intersubjective awakening he had helped to catalyze. And the leadership couldn’t come together to wrest control of EnlightenNext from him and correct for his mistakes.

We also considered an important question about the fact that Andrew contrasted the authentic self with the ego in a binary, black and white, “either or” fashion. Was this false dichotomy at the root of the harm, abuse, and dehumanization of people? Acknowledging that this was indeed a key factor, Tom also pointed out that it was also a source of some of the tremendous value in the EnlightenNext experiment — the transformative power of directly facing the challenge to choose real changes. I agreed with the key points made by both the questioner and Tom, and suggested that perhaps there’s a greater “both/and” that includes both sides of this enduring polarity.

We managed to address a number of the comments and questions that came in subsequent to the first dialogue. There has been quite a lot of passion, energy, and thoughtful exchange generated around both dialogues.

And during our discussion, comments continued to arrrive. I felt it was important to address comments that Tom seemed emotionally removed from the ways in which he had supported something that was hurting people. People seemed to be wanting to hear a more embodied, emotional response, not just an intellectual acknowledgement of mistakes. I tried to make it more vivid for Tom by saying “If there is a real trail of blood and you have some of it on your hands, I think some people are wanting to see some tears.”

Tom responded honestly, acknowledging his typological difficulty in speaking emotionally on a public call— and he spoke about how he feels implicated in the patterns of abuse, while at the same time feeling a necessity to stand strongly in his commitment to the positive evolutionary, utopian core that EnlightenNext’s work was about.

I also thought it important to expose my own process of self-questioning with regard to Andrew. In the past, I’ve publicly defended Andrew’s students and community because I believed (and still do) that there was tremendous psycho-spiritual capital invested that became coherent around him, and that his students became a fierce and important cultural force, a counterforce to the apathy, mediocrity, abstraction, and other limiting attitudes and assumptions that pervade conventional culture (the “Consensus Trance”) and even much of spiritual and integral culture. And yet it is clear to me now that there was a more critical failure of compassion on the part of Andrew and the whole EnlightenNext community than I had realized. And it must be understood, processed, and purified.

A great deal can be learned and taken forward from the EnlightenNext experiment, but that progress requires going beyond both rigid ideals and deconstructive cynicism. It ultimately requires love more than anything else, love from a fully broken heart, perhaps in a way that Andrew hasn’t yet been able to completely embody. Still, as the experiment has shown, the bottom line is love. In my opinion, that love has to extend to everyone who cares about evolutionary spirituality and collective awakening, to everyone who gave their lives and energy to EnlightenNext, to everyone who feels damaged, and even to Andrew himself.

And yet, it was important for me to acknowledge that I can’t claim to have clean hands, that my defense of Andrew’s evolutionary innovations may have influenced some individuals to get into or remain in a dynamic with unhealthy dimensions that might have adversely impacted them. And I confessed that I’ve been taking that to heart.

Another listener’s question we addressed was around which aspects of Tom’s experience with Andrew had been retained, and which had been discarded. Tom stated that the core of what he retains is the principle of higher intersubjectivity. Dialogue is at the core of his current work, including collaboration with individuals committed to dharmas and practices that differ from his own. But he’s still valuing the need to aspire to a “utopian” ideal, as EnlightenNext aspired to that “Higher We” in order to most fully advance and develop, all the while holding respectful space for the world as it is, and people as they are.

Believe it or not, there was much, much more. This blog post just touches on a few highlights of the conversation.

I hope you’ll listen to the recording to access the depth of this discussion and consider this contribution to what is really just one step in an extended process of healing and ever deepening levels of understanding.

 

The Art of Sacred Conversation — a “Basement Tape”

by Terry Patten

This past Sunday’s Beyond Awakening featured my recent conversation with scholar/mystic Andrew Harvey entitled “Reckless Love and Friendship at the Edge”. It was the first in a series of “basement tapes” where we’ll be probing into a number of the most alive and edgy topics we’ve been contemplating in our exploration of “what really matters”.

This first dialogue demonstrates what becomes available within the precious and dynamic container of sacred friendship. As we conversed, Andrew and I spoke aloud that which was emerging in this moment, and this moment and this. We flowed from topic, to insight, to reflection—from practicing with metabolizing the horrors in the daily news, to the evolution of contemporary spirituality, to the sacred, catalytic, tantric, alchemical nature of sexuality, to the process of facing and transmuting the deep biologically-based anxiety that operates in the very cells of the body.

I’ll share some juicy excerpts of our conversation below. But I invite you to listen in to the full audio.

On harnessing the fire of sacred outrage

Our challenge is to combine the profound coolness and spaciousness and openness to divine peace that is characteristic of Advaita and the Theravadan approach with the sacred fiery passion of Christ Consciousness and the Sufi vision of the Beloved. We need to be both profoundly calm and profoundly passionate. So that we can be flames of authentic Divine Passion, which is always grounded in calm. When I teach Sacred Activism (both the inner of prayer/meditation and the outer activism founded and grounded in sacred consciousness) what I always say to people is “begin with establishing a foundation of peace…doing whatever cool practices truly work for you. But don’t stop there! This is my challenge to the Thervadans. When you have established that foundation of peace, dare to plunge into…the Burning Furnace of Charity, dare to open your heart to the agony of the world. Dare to allow the Sacred Outrage to rise in you. But make sure that when it does, it’s purified by Peace.

– Andrew

On enlightenment

Enlightenment is not a series of dazzling experiences. Enlightenment is the steady state of attention to the Presence in the present. And that is the key to becoming awake and staying awake. The mystic poet Kabir says:

No need to grieve my friend for what must pass.

Find what always stays and cannot leave.

Behind the turbulent dance of the world,

the banner of his Peace is always unfurled.

And that is an absolutely crucial message to all of us at this time. Unless we are going beyond the experiences into this steady state of attention, being present to the Presence in the present moment, we are always the victim of even the higher emotions. They will shatter us in a crisis as extreme as this.

–Andrew

On the next Buddha

In this particular moment, it seems that the next Buddha may be a sangha, that the teacher is now needing to be both a student and a teacher. We need to come in to a kind of sacred collaboration, to be communing with that unknown next moment. It is emergence, the creative dance of our humble giving of ourselves in this moment so that the thing that we never had thought before—that isn’t there in the existing body of things we could study or quote—can find its way through our lips and somehow be heard, so that we’re innocent enough that it can touch us and change us. So that this conversation actually becomes the emergence of something new, something that can make a difference. We’ve got to hold ourselves in this conversation with that kind of tender but courageous expectancy. Being that prayer, as we speak.

–Terry

On the perils of falling in love with your own voice:

Andrew, you are so eloquent, you’re such a fount of poetry. This is also a quality that people sometimes appreciate in me. I know we’re both aware that there is a certain, hypnotic allure, a risk of “falling in love with the sound of our own voices”. It’s so important to transcend, to be the clear channel through which that which is beyond the “Terry” or the “Andrew” can find its way into expression; and for us to really attempt, in that spirit of Sufi sacred conversation or sobhet, to speak with the voice of the heart of the heart, the ear of the heart of the heart…

-Terry

On transcending the spiritual circus

The aliveness of teaching is so precious and it’s always under threat. So many people who I deeply respect, and whose gifts I appreciate, I’ll catch them when they are repeating themselves, where they are performing, where they are not in that place of fresh discovery. I think the new generation is wise to this. Thank goodness! I aspire to be a participant in a turning so that we can function as a hinge. We have been given these great beings, and lineages, and legacies and our cells have been baked by that intense transmission of these great beings. And we are of use, we do have a gift. But because we’ve lived it, we can become oppressive, cranky old men telling people the stories of our youth; if we’re aren’t alive, in love, and dedicated only to the real thing in the next moment. And then if we are really participating, humble, and ready to learn from people 20, 30, 40 years younger than we are, then something can come out of a collaboration in which our humility just barely leads our elder-hood. Maybe we can be a contribution to the whole pattern evolving in our time. And transcend the old model of people gathering around those few rare beings, and the schools, and the venerable, and the retinue that always has to be invoked and the way it makes everybody small.

-Terry

On sacred naughtiness

There are so many teachers who get stuck in their own shtick and stop radiating the kind of playfulness and joyfulness and sheer humor that is one of the most glorious parts of the divine presence. That’s what makes His Holiness the Dalai Lama such an enchanting being. Not only that he has all this grandeur and realization, but that he is absolutely in the Presence and he’s always foaming over with naughtiness. He’s staying naughty in that high, gloriousness. My cats teach me the sacred naughtiness every single day!

-Andrew

It’s very close to our sexiness and our Eros, our playfulness. That thing that can be sassily proud of an erection or seductively confrontative. Evolution is not just in our hearts, or our imagination, it’s in our loins too!

-Terry

On the primordial anxiety of matter:

Until you’re really trying to retrain the cells themselves, all the talk of flooding the body with light is just talk because you’ll always come up against that dark message that the cells have been giving themselves for millennia in our dying world. You have to reprogram them. It’s not about going into divine consciousness, but about bringing the deep trust and rapture of transcendence down into the dark, swarming reptilian depths of cellular matter. And that’s grueling work, a more brutal resistance than mind or emotion because it’s more primordial.

-Andrew

 

 

 

“Reckless Love and Friendship at the Edge” with Andrew Harvey

by Terry Patten

Recently I recorded a conversation with the astoundingly eloquent and learned, mystical poet-on-the-fly Andrew Harvey. We’ve entitled that dialogue “Reckless Love and Friendship at the Edge” and we’ll be broadcasting it on Sunday, October 19th at 10am Pacific.

Andrew and I have always been able to converse frankly and passionately and catalytically. And yet over the last few months our practice of “sacred conversation” has begun to venture more and more boldly, wildly, and fruitfully into edgy, unknown territory. So we decided to start recording our conversations, and also to begin to teach together (we’ll be co-leading a 4-day seminar in the San Francisco Bay Area, March 5-8, 2015).

This is the first of those “basement tapes” — and the conversation ranges widely, probing into a number of the most alive and edgy topics we’ve been contemplating in our exploration of “what really matters”.

We began by speaking about practicing with metabolizing the horrors in the daily news (it took place during the surge of ISIS’s atrocities), and then flowed into a contemplation of intense spiritual feeling, passion, emotion and arousal vs. the value of “cooler” meditative states.

We then contemplated the evolution of contemporary spirituality, noting that this is no longer an age of great Gurus, like the 70s and 80s. This seems to be a time for collaboration, for spiritual friendship, and for experiments in awakened democratic intersubjectivity.

We reflected on how this presents us with a demand to reawaken from all our past patterns, and to continually show up freshly and curiously in each new moment. In doing this yoga, there’s “no place to hide.” So we challenged ourselves and each other, including our own strengths, like eloquence — which can draw us to fall in love with the sound of our own voices. And in doing this we dropped more deeply into our own friendship and the catalytic nature of the conversation itself, making it an offering to the evolution of love and dharma.

And we talked frankly and passionately about sexuality — its sacred, tantric, alchemical nature and also the necessity of a healthy relationship to sex in a culture where our relationship to sex and to committed relationship is so rapidly evolving.

This drew us into a contemplation of the subtle nature of anxiety, and the process of facing and transmuting the deep biologically-based anxiety that operates in the very cells of the body. We reflected on some of what Aurobindo and the Mother and Adi Da have said about the potential for transforming not just our minds but our actual physical protoplasm.

I hope you listen in!

About Andrew Harvey

Andrew Harvey is an author, speaker and founder/director of the Institute of Sacred Activism, an international organization focused on inviting concerned people to take up the challenge of our contemporary global crises by becoming inspired, effective and practical agents of institutional and systemic change, in order to create peace and sustainability.

No one brings together the world’s wisdom traditions in such a potent and timely way as Andrew Harvey. Perhaps it’s because in many ways he has lived them. He was born in South India and lived there until he was nine, which he credits with shaping his sense of the inner unity of all religions and providing him with a permanent and inspiring vision of a world infused with the sacred.

As a young man, disillusioned with Oxford, he returned to his native India, where a series of mystical experiences initiated his spiritual journey. Over the next thirty years he plunged into different mystical traditions to learn their secrets and practices, including studying Hinduism, undertaking the Mahayana Buddhist Bodhisattva vows, and engaging an exploration and explication of Rumi and Sufi mysticism in Paris with a group of French Sufis. He also has a rich scholarly knowledge and deep personal experience of the meanings behind the Gnostic Gospels and Christian Mysticism.

He has taught at Oxford University, Cornell University, Hobart and William Smith Colleges, The California Institute of Integral Studies, and the University of Creation Spirituality as well as at various spiritual centers throughout the U.S.

He was the subject of the 1993 BBC film documentary The Making of a Modern Mystic and appears also in Rumi Turning Ecstatic and The Consciousness of the Christ: Reclaiming Jesus for A New Humanity.

He has also worked with the great Iranian Sufi dancer, Banafsheh Sayyad, in producing a film, In the Fire of Grace, which marries Sufi inspired dances to the stages of Rumi’s understanding of the path of Divine love.

He has written and edited over 30 books and received many awards, including the Benjamin Franklin Award and the Mind Body Spirit Award.

 

HOW TO PARTICIPATE:

Sunday, October 19th at 10:00am Pacific; 11:00am Mountain; 12:00pm Central; 1:00pm Eastern

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Please Note: There will be a limited number of lines available on the live conference call, so we encourage you to listen online if possible. To make sure you can get through by phone, we encourage you to dial in early.

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Sincerely,
The Beyond Awakening Team

A Bold Experiment Continues

by Terry Patten

Last Sunday, I was joined by Tom Steininger for a conversation entitled “My Guru Experiment: Twenty Years with Andrew Cohen.” It was an edgy and timely dialogue, coming a year after the collapse of the global EnlightenNext network, and while Andrew Cohen is still on sabbatical to understand the lessons of that collapse and reckon with his shortcomings as a teacher and leader.

I confess that I felt a bit nervous about this dialogue. There is such fierce polarization and passion surrounding any discussion of Andrew Cohen, with both appreciators and critics arrayed in a wide spectrum of sometimes fierce positions. Some former students say their lives have been wonderfully transformed by their work with Andrew. Thousands of people, including many who were never Andrew’s students, feel like their understanding of spirituality has deepened and grown, aided by the distinctions he’s made, particularly his innovations regarding evolutionary spirituality and collective enlightenment. And there are many who are outraged by his harsh methods and lack of care for his students’ humanity, some who say that they’ve been traumatized and victimized by their experiences with him. But for many reasons, I felt it was important to wade into these waters and open up the beginnings of what I think is an important, larger conversation.

I knew that it would be hard to adequately presence the many paradoxes and nuances at play, and that the limitations of that attempt would, on one end, provoke accusations of being an apologist and enabling abuse; or on the other end, be a cop out, and carelessly devalue everything associated with Andrew Cohen and his teaching, essentially throwing out the baby with the bathwater. So I didn’t feel ready until now. But I finally felt ready to plunge ahead.

And so did Tom Steininger. He is uniquely capable of walking the knife’s edge of this important discussion. He was a longtime close and senior student of Andrew’s, the leader of EnlightenNext Germany, and the senior editor of the German-language version of Cohen’s magazine, What Is Enlightenmentand then EnlightenNext. He is also a thoughtful, philosophically sophisticated original thinker who is currently in his own process of a deep, self-critical inquiry, holding the tension of having experienced and witnessed profound and authentic spiritual growth and innovation with Andrew, while examining ways in which he may have colluded in the damaging mistakes that Andrew, and the culture around him, made. Not only that, he’s been a key leader in forging several trans-lineage evolutionary spiritual collaboratives that beautifully transcend cultism.

What does Tom mean by his “Guru Experiment”? During our dialogue, he explained that in part he wanted to experiment by finding someone who could challenge him to realize something absolute, something truly far beyond himself, beyond his “arrogance.” He felt that there was something authentic and real about Andrew, who was radical in a very unusual way.

Tom’s experiment involved making a choice to trust someone else more than he trusted himself and to surrender his own perspectives to something he sensed was higher. And it worked. His surrender created enough leverage to pull him beyond insidiously subtle ego dynamics. When the guru relationship works well, it can be a powerful function, completely based on trust.

And yet such trust can also be dangerous.

When I wrote my blog post “Are You in a Cult?” I suggested that everyone in the whole world is in a cult, subject to a whole matrix of limiting attitudes and assumptions that researcher Charles Tart described as “the Consensus Trance.” To break from this trance, I think there needs to be room for bold, challenging experiments, such as surrender to a guru. And yet there’s a serious potential for people to be damaged by pathological dynamics when they’ve surrendered their own will to that of a guru.

I recounted that I’d heard that Andrew had told his students to “strangle your inner child in its crib”, which exemplifies the kind of harshness that I believe contributed to the breakdown of Enlightenment Next. Tom acknowledged this, and yet pointed out that there are enlightened masters who have used harsh methods in their teaching, but have come from the right place.

He believes the issue is the motivation for that harshness. According to Tom, there were things that Andrew did that did not come from the right place; and this at least partially accounts for the controversies and harm that have resulted.

Tom suggested that in order to understand Andrew’s strengths and failings, you have to consider both his theoretical orientation and his personal motivations. Like Ken Wilber and Don Beck, Andrew launched a powerful critique of postmodern relativism. But Tom says this was done in flawed way in that it was just an antithesis to postmodern relativism, without integrating important postmodern values. In addition, on many occasions Andrew demonstrated a profound lack of caring for the personal souls of his students, and that was damaging. This, according to Tom, is part of what precipitated the crisis at EnlightenNext.

But the critiques of Andrew are only half the story. The headline is that Tom continues to feel that much of what he had dedicated his life to as a student of Andrew Cohen was valid, and thus he has learned from the lessons of the crisis, but he and many colleagues in the German-speaking world have continued to work on behalf of the evolution of consciousness and culture, in just the ways their “Guru Experiment” set in motion. These higher values remain primary in his life and I deeply respect this higher commitment.

Ultimately, Tom feels that his “experiment” was really about coming together with other human beings to go beyond ego, to collectively realize a Higher We. This intention is still central to Tom’s life and work. I pointed out that this is almost the opposite of the dharma that matured him into what he is doing now, He is bringing people together in ways that are profoundly respectful of everyone concerned. Instead of brutally confronting the ego, Tom is creating compassionate, collaborative containers.

Tom agrees. He observes something important — that the evolutionary unfolding of Oneness, what Andrew would call “Eros”, is an inherently dialogicalprocess. Thus the true evolutionary integral process is not a philosophy or a theory, but a conversation. He says, “the unfolding of consciousness is always bigger than my voice, and what we create only has value as a contribution to something bigger than ourselves. The classic mistake of any cult is thinking ‘we are it.’”

I pointed out that Andrew Cohen is on his own journey, and I wish him well. To what degree he will metabolize a deep transformation of his heart remains to be seen. On one hand, he’s shown tremendous clarity, courage, intelligence and self-transcending capacity in the past. On the other, this crisis asks something tremendously difficult and entirely different.

We had only begun our conversation when we ran out of time. So our conversation was alive, edgy, and yet incomplete. When we talked afterwards, Tom asked me, and I agreed, to hold a follow-up conversation “about the conversation” which we’ve scheduled for October 15th. For details, click here.

But this first public conversation has opened up a larger, very thoughtful dialogue. And there’s more; our conversation ranged more widely than I can recount in this space. I invite you to listen to the full recording here

“My Guru Experiment: Twenty Years with Andrew Cohen” with Tom Steininger

by Terry Patten

This Sunday, October 5th at 10am Pacific I’ll be joined by Tom Steininger for a conversation entitled “My Guru Experiment: Twenty Years with Andrew Cohen.”

In 1993, Tom met spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen and fairly soon after joined his community that was then in Marin County, California. He became a close student of Andrew, the leader of EnlightenNext Germany, and produced a German-language version of Cohen’s magazine, What Is Enlightenment?  Or as it was called in later years, EnlightenNext magazine.

What motivated someone who had completed his PhD with a thesis on Ken Wilber and Martin Heidegger and was a successful radio producer and therapist in Vienna to drop everything and move nearly 10,000 miles to be the student of a contemporary guru? More importantly, what led him to stay when Cohen’s methods and the culture around him were revealed to be seriously flawed? These are some of the questions we’ll be digging into on Sunday.

Tom had a first-hand experience of what he considers a profound Higher-We breakthrough in 2001 at the EnlightenNext ashram in Western Massachusetts—and also of the problems of a closed pyramid hierarchy led by an imperfect and often careless guru.

He now runs the successful German progressive-spiritual magazine Evolve and the weekly webradio show, Radio Evolve. He participates in several innovative and dynamic collaborations with other thought leaders and spiritual teachers. As one of the leaders of EnlightenNext Germany, he has been developing and refining the insights and practices from EnlightenNext’s Higher-We experiment into a new dialogue practice, which he calls “Evolutionary Dialogue.” Based on more than 20 years of collective work in EnlightenNext, this dialogue process is a new contribution to the practices of multi-perspective dialogue and Higher-We emergence.

This promises to be a fascinating and timely dialogue, coming as it does after the collapse of the global EnlightenNext network; and while Andrew Cohen is still on sabbatical to work with his own mistakes and shortcomings as a teacher and leader. Listen in as Tom shares about his 20 year “guru experiment,” and together we explore the light and the shadow sides of a radical spiritual endeavor with a powerful “guru.”

About Tom Steininger

Dr. Tom Steininger studied philosophy at the University of Vienna with a special emphasis on awareness issues and social evolution. He worked for the Austrian Radio (OE1) and as a freelance journalist. He is a founder and current editor of the German Evolve Magazine for consciousness and culture and was the longtime senior editor.

Tom taught at the Master’s Program for “Conscious Evolution” at the Graduate Institute in Connecticut, USA in collaboration with Don Beck, Susanne Cook-Greuter, and Allan Combs. Today he heads EnlightenNext Germany / Switzerland and moderates the Webradio Radio show “Radio Evolve.” Tom lectures internationally and teaches courses on evolutionary spirituality.

HOW TO PARTICIPATE:

Sunday, October 5th at 10:00am Pacific; 11:00am Mountain; 12:00pm Central; 1:00pm Eastern

*Find Your Local Time

Please Note: There will be a limited number of lines available on the live conference call, so we encourage you to listen online if possible. To make sure you can get through by phone, we encourage you to dial in early.

ACCESS INSTRUCTIONS

To download the audio after the teleseminar is complete go to the Beyond Awakening Audio Page We look forward to your attendance!

Sincerely,
The Beyond Awakening Team